Plato at the Googleplex: Why Philosophy Won't Go Away by Rebecca Goldstein
My rating: 2 of 5 stars
I
finally went with a 2-star rating for this book. I will note that
Goldstein did stimulate my thought at times, albeit half the time to
take notes on how she was wrong, and did get me to modify somewhat the
harsh take I’ve had on Socrates since reading Izzy Stone, but, the book
is still not that good.
First, a couple of overarching issues.
I
am discomfited by a professional philosopher diving into the tank of
commercial toutery. Plato can’t just have a laptop, he has to have a
Chromebook. He can’t just like the Internet, he has to like Google for
searches rather than using a generic term for Internet search. He has to
like Google’s cloud-based services. He has to like Google so much that,
per one chapter that gives the book its title, he does indeed visit
Google’s Googleplex, where much of the chapter’s dialogue is taken up by
a Google PR flak.
Frankly, it made me want to vomit.
Strangely, even among “negative” reviewers, I’m seemingly the first to
hit that much on this issue.
The second overarching issue, is
despite all the puffery on the blurbs and on some five-star reviews,
Goldstein is not that good of a writer in my opinion. The book lacks
some coherence, including exactly how she’s trying to make Plato
relevant for today and why. Plus, some specific writing tricks do not
float my boat.
On page 192, she says in a footnote:
“I’m not sure whether Plato is just managing Munitz here or is really
implying that she’s guardian material.” Bulls***. Don’t go Stanley Fish
on me. You know full well what your conscious intention was with the
passage you footnoted.
I'm skipping around a bit, in part to get
more feel for the book, and in part because it hasn't floated my boat
that much so far, despite all the advance touts it's gotten.
First,
Goldstein, while noting Whitehead's observation about all later
philosophy being but footnotes to Plato and Aristotle, then noting many
modern philosophers disagree, doesn't explain why she, essentially,
comes down on the side of Whitehead. And, as a philosopher, she knows
that for a philosopher not to “argumentatively” justify one’s decision
or stance on something like this is …. Unphilosophical!
Second,
some of her specific stances related to Platonism are ones that are
also contentious. The idea that there’s no single character in Plato’s
dialogues that truly represents him? I know that’s nowhere unanimous.
One need not believe that Socrates is Plato’s sole voice to nonetheless
believe that he is his primary one, and certainly so in his early and
middle dialogues.
Third, she buys wholeheartedly and
blindly into Plato’s description of who the Sophists were. Plenty a
critic of this position has noted that the elitists like Socrates, and
arguably, Plato, disliked the Sophists not because they proposed to
teach “sophistry” in its modern English terms, but because they proposed
to, relatively inexpensively, teach the basics of rhetorical tools that
would help level the social and legal playing field between the rich
and the non-rich.
Related to that, even if Plato's
description of Socrates isn't the be-all and end-all of who Socrates
was, she certainly seems to take at face value Plato's presentation of
Socrates as a straight shooter, never engaging in sophistry himself. Nor
does she ever entertain the idea that, if Plato is a mouthpiece or tool
of Socrates at times, in turn, his "opponents" are just straw men for
positions they never actually held.
Fourth, she’s
not proven at best, possibly wrong at worse, on the background of
“Ivriim,” which may be the root the Hebrew word for “Hebrew.” Yes, it
does mean “pass over,” or “pass through,” in its verbal root, but, that
doesn’t necessarily mean that the Hebrews applied it to themselves as
“over the Jordan.” First, no ancient people are likely to define
themselves this way, in terms of another culture or nation’s geographic
point of view. Nor are the Jews likely to have said this about
themselves because their mythical ancestor came from Transjordan and
beyond. And, her interpretation starts with the noun form.
Better
understandings of the root of this word are that as people “passing
through,” it can mean immigrants, without geographic reference. Again,
though, would a people likely refer to themselves that way?
Interestingly, the verb is used in Genesis 15, where the torches pass
between the cuts of meat during the Abrahamic covenant ceremony. That is
one possible alternative etymology.
Another? “Hebrews”
may well instead be a patronymic from alleged ancestor Eber (same
consonantal Hebrew). And, the older attempts to connect them to the
Egyptian “Hapiru,” while left by the wayside today, may not be totally
dead.
Anyway, the fact that Goldstein, in a book about
Plato, feels the need not just to talk about “Hebrews,” but the Hebrew
etymology more than once, and possibly getting it wrong each and every
time, is also disconcerting.
That’s from the first chapter.
On
talking about the Republic, she made me realize that, of course,
Plato’s ideas for youth education founder on Piaget’s stages of
development. Pre-adolescents wouldn’t have been ready for his program.
Surely, somebody else has mentioned that somewhere. But, she doesn’t.
Related?
I
just realized that Plato's Allegory of the Cave has two holes in it as
an analogy. First, if all we see our shadows, each of us has to be in
our own cave; we can't be in one common cave because, of course, other
people have to be shadows, too. Of course, to write it that way would
wreck some of its force. Second, Plato talks about one person being freed then compelled
to re-see things. Plato doesn't mention a personal agent, but the
language sure implies one. And, of course, no other person can compel
new knowledge. Even if an agent is not intended, the passivity of the
allegory, the "being freed," is just wrong.
Also, one
need not agree with Izzy Stone’s attributing Socrates’ death entirely to
legitimate politics to nonetheless say that it was part of it.
What
I got from all of this is a Goldstein who largely believes in the
largely idealized picture of Socrates that Plato has handed us.
So,
I guess she stimulated my mind to reject the Whitehead idea that the
rest of philosophy is but footnotes to Plato and Aristotle.
Besides
the Googleplex chapter, one other one rings very false. That’s the one
about Plato appearing on a would-be Fox News with an ersatz Bill
O’Reilly.
It all adds up to the fact that she is NOT a
skilled writer, period and end of story, despite the fluffy touts from
A.C. Grayling and many another. She needed an editor with a good
understanding of both philosophy and classics, and a firm and heavy
hand, and got none. (Sic semper the decline of the modern book
industry.)
Finally, from all this, no matter my interest in philosophy, I won’t be reading another book of hers.
I'm
not sure which bothers me most — the commercialism itself, the
commercialism without warrant (philosophical or otherwise), the failure
to defend the modern relevance of Plato before jumping in to chapters,
or the failure to justify her interpretation of Plato.
In
any case, it's a failure. There's also, in a Gertrude Stein sense, no
"there" there. There's not a lot of unification between chapters.
Update: Now I know more of why it's bad: Goldstein is Steve Pinker's wife.
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This is a slice of my philosophical, lay scientific, musical, religious skepticism, and poetic musings. (All poems are my own.) The science and philosophy side meet in my study of cognitive philosophy; Dan Dennett was the first serious influence on me, but I've moved beyond him. The poems are somewhat related, as many are on philosophical or psychological themes. That includes existentialism and questions of selfhood, death, and more. Nature and other poems will also show up here on occasion.
Sunday, June 29, 2014
Friday, June 06, 2014
A little DABDA will do ya — outside of death and dying
A little
DABDA
A little
DABDA will do ya,
Or so, the
grieving are told.
But there’s
no right way, or wrong way, to mourn
Even if
there are more common, and less common, ways.
Sometimes,
loss doesn’t involve denial.
A death, a
divorce, or similar, has been long anticipated.
Likewise for
anger; it’s been wrestled with
And
exhausted,
Before the
loss.
Likewise for
bargaining.
Depression?
More common, and more normal,
Even before
acceptance, which may never fully come for some.
Sometimes,
they overlap.
Emotions,
after all, aren’t discrete.
Sometimes,
one emotion is experienced
Two or more
times, even if others aren’t.
And maybe,
just maybe
A little
DABDA will do ya,
For things
besides loss.
Like
depression, even if it’s a “D” itself.
Or anxiety.
Don’t we
deny our own emotions at times,
Or longer
moods,
Or more
complex psychological states?
Of course,
especially if there’s reason for us to do that.
Don’t we get
angry at being depressed,
Or
frustrated at being anxious?
Yes.
Unfortunately,
bargaining aside,
Depression
or anger don’t fully disappear.
A little
DABDA
A little
DABDA will do ya,
Or so, the
grieving are told.
But there’s
no right way, or wrong way, to mourn
Even if
there are more common, and less common, ways.
Sometimes,
loss doesn’t involve denial.
A death, a
divorce, or similar, has been long anticipated.
Likewise for
anger; it’s been wrestled with
And
exhausted,
Before the
loss.
Likewise for
bargaining.
Depression?
More common, and more normal,
Even before
acceptance, which may never fully come for some.
Sometimes,
they overlap.
Emotions,
after all, aren’t discrete.
Sometimes,
one emotion is experienced
Two or more
times, even if others aren’t.
And maybe,
just maybe
A little
DABDA will do ya,
For things
besides loss.
Like depression,
even if it’s a “D” itself.
Or anxiety.
Don’t we
deny our own emotions at times,
Or longer
moods,
Or more
complex psychological states?
Of course,
especially if there’s reason for us to do that.
Don’t we get
angry at being depressed,
Or frustrated
at being anxious?
Yes.
Unfortunately,
bargaining aside,
Depression
or anger don’t fully disappear.
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