Thursday, January 25, 2024

Andy Clark: Another theory of, and theorist of, consciousness that isn't

The Experience Machine

The Experience Machine by Andy Clark
My rating: 3 of 5 stars

Better than Anil Seth, but that's a low bar to clear.

But, that's a good starting point for this review, which, as normal, is extended beyond my Goodreads one.

“Predictive processing” sounds more accurate than “controlled hallucination,” especially one notes the denotative meaning of “hallucination.” (I suspect that’s why some cognitive scientists, philosophers etc., use the latter. Anil Seth, who is IMO a cheap knockoff of Clark [and a blurber of this book!] comes immediately to mind. Hence, my opening paragraph.)

Second, Clark explains the whole idea of feedback loops, and partial parallels to empiricism, better than Seth's book. Again, though, a low bar to clear.

In an mildly extended Interlude about halfway in, Clark dives head-on into “the hard problem of consciousness.” Contra a David Chalmers, he indicates that it’s at least a part of preconceptions, as he first tackles the “meta-problem,” that of the temptation of various dualisms. After that, he says the “hard problem” will look different than often presented, especially if we look at hidden tangled expectations re things like those “pesky qualia.”

But, he never does really seem to tackle the issue as head-on as he promises. More below.

That said, does Clark have it all right? Perhaps, per one of his strongest critics at the end of a New Yorker piece, he’s offering up a Panglossian view of how the mind works.

Per his primary critic, Jakob Hohwy, and going beyond him? Placebos don’t always work. Certainly, “positivity” in attempting to reframe mental illness doesn’t work. (Clark’s ideas on depression don’t seem that different than CBT. His ideas on schizophrenia seem both superficial and largely wrong.) And, the idea that you might even “reset” or “repredict” physical health skirts somewhere halfway close to New age quackery.

And, other aspects? His “interlude” doesn’t really deal that much with pesky qualia. It ignores that qualia are of multiple types. It ignores that some are likely more “grounded” in top-down empirical knowledge than he will admit. “Redness” is an obvious example, with the only differentiating factor being the exact peak frequency in red wavelength in nanometers for your red cone cells vs mine. That said, what does a weaker version of Sapir-Whorf have to say about qualia? If your language doesn’t have a word for “yellow,” is there no “yellow qualia”? What if there’s not even no word, but no concept for, “schadenfreude,” to get to something very non-empirical.

In short, like Seth, the energy reduction angle, re Karl Friston and his free-energy principle, of predictive processing is a no-brainer. But, not unique to this theory. Any theory of cognition in general has something like that at base. Again, though, a low bar to clear, and broadly similar ideas are tied not just to other theories of consciousness, but theories of how the human mind in general operates.

There's one other issue. Predictive processing sounds a lot like AI-type feedback loops, with the "feedback" and "course corrections" being straight and neat. We know, contra many philosophers and cognitive scientists still trying to go down this road, that the brain isn't a computer, or that the embodied brain isn't a robot. Clark may have smoked some of Dan Dennett's shorties from "The Mind's I," but that doesn't make him, or them, any more true.

In addition, while the full schmeer of Clark's idea may have a fair amount of truth for homo sapiens, I doubt it, further "down" the animal evolutionary world, talking about evolutionary animal psychological development. (There's a phrase for a non-Ev Psych approach to that, but I can't remember what it is.)

Also, the "prediction" involved with tracking a batted baseball has been discussed elsewhere, and is not the same as predicting another human being's mental changes. In short, it doesn't well allow for theory of mind. Combine these last two paragraphs together, and while Clark may have a partial theory of human consciousness, it's not complete for humans or non-humans, especially not for the non-human portions of consciousness.

Beyond that, I don't know if Clark disses a Dan Wegner the way Anil Seth did, but it's something to keep in mind. In short, there seems to be, in addition to this being only a partial explainer, an anti-Ockhamite problem. One shouldn't multiply entities beyond necessity, but one shouldn't cast necessary ones away, either. 

Finally, I think there’s a fair amount of psychological projection behind Clark’s theorizing. Probably any philosopher with a theory of consciousness does some of that (see "Dennett, Daniel"), but the New Yorker piece ("primary critic," above) plus Clark's own comments cued me in to the projection level being high here. So, no, don't hang your hats, cranes or skyhooks on what Clark is preaching.

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Thursday, January 18, 2024

Top posts, last quarter of 2023

 I don't do a monthly roundup, unlike at my main blog. But, here is a roundup of the last quarter of 2023.

 Again, not all of these may have been written in 2023, but they were the most read the last quarter.

We'll start from the bottom.

No. 10? Bart Ehrman goes from JW to Marcionite, comparing his second most recent book to his most recent. 

No. 9? An extended book review. "A Canticle for Leibowitz" was VERY interesting, but a set of secong and third thoughts led me to call out various things related to the ethnicity of that person Leibowitz.

No. 8 was one of many posts about stupidities at Reddit's r/AcademicBiblical, as I called out a shitload of stupidity in people commenting on a post about the Woman Taken in Adultery pericope from John.

No. 7? "Say goodbye to History for Atheists" was written in 2017, but has been updated more than once since then.

No. 6 was also from last year, and also from r/AcademicBiblical. and was various commenting fails by "Smart Fool" at the same subreddit.  

No. 5? The myth that Paul Hill from St. John's College wrote "Lean on Me," blogged years ago, started trending, in part because I posted a piece where I had dropped this link onto a St. John's College Facebook group.

At No. 4,  from a year ago January, Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod President Matthew Harrison is either actually dealing with or else pretending to deal with Trumpian-aligned fascism in his denomination.

No. 3? Calling out Robert Sapolsky for being all wet on the hoary chestnut of "free will vs determinism," first for believing this dichotomy really exists and secondly for plumping for determinism.

No. 2 deserves a hat tip to Paul Davidson of "Is That in the Bible"? I riffed on a post of his, into standing both the kingship of Josiah and the development of Deuteronomy on their heads.

Drumroll ....

No. 1? As if a first round of proofs wasn't enough, "More proof the Buddha was no Buddha." Goes way back to 2007, but trended because I posted it to a subreddit in response to some Buddhist chuds. But, the comments long before that, like "Addie"? Claiming that the Buddha's teachings are ineffable sounds like Paul quoting Job in Romans. Nope on both.


Thursday, January 11, 2024

Top posts of 2023

 Again, not all of these may have been written in 2023, but they were the most read last year.

We'll start from the bottom.

At No. 10, from January 2023, me calling out a then-new moderator at Reddit's r/AcademicBiblical site as a moderator Nazi, for various good reasons, which eventually got me comment-banned there, and led to me starting my own, currently restricted group. 

No. 9 was also from last year and was various commenting fails by "Smart Fool" at the same subreddit. (There will be more; when none of the mods has an academic biblical degree, even at the bachelor's level, you get problems.)

No. 8? The myth that Paul Hill from St. John's College wrote "Lean on Me," blogged years ago, started trending, in part because I posted a piece where I had dropped this link onto a St. John's College Facebook group.

No. 7, from way back in 2009, trending because I posted it to various biblical subreddits, including with the Nazi. "Paul, Passover, Jesus, Gnosticism" ties together several critical threads.

No. 6? As if a first round of proofs wasn't enough, "More proof the Buddha was no Buddha." Goes way back to 2007, but trended because I posted it to a subreddit in response to some Buddhist chuds. But, the comments long before that, like "Addie"? Claiming that the Buddha's teachings are ineffable sounds like Paul quoting Job in Romans. Nope on both.

No. 5? Back to this past year. Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod President Matthew Harrison is either actually dealing with or else pretending to deal with Trumpian-aligned fascism in his denomination.

No. 4? Way back in 2006, but trending because I posted it to r/classicalmusic. "Mahler: the anti-Beethoven" invites discussion.

No. 3? "Say goodbye to History for Atheists" was written in 2017, but has been updated more than once since then.

No. 2 goes back to the world of Reddit. I called out anally-retentive mods at r/religion and (of course) got banned.

Drumroll ....

No. 1 again goes to r/AcademicBiblical, as I called out a shitload of stupidity in people commenting on a post about the Woman Taken in Adultery pericope from John.

Thursday, January 04, 2024

The United Methodist Church crackup, detailed

 Shock me that the (currently) second-largest United Methodist church in the US is in Southlake, tilts semi-wingnut within the UMC, and has its growth being driven by Californication. 

More seriously, "shock me" that the departing churches are in general, older and whiter. They're also more Southern, as well as more theologically conservative in general.  While "teh gay" and official UMC "don't ask, don't tell" policy on gay ministers is driving the split, larger social justice issues — or resistance to them — in the post-George Floyd era are also in play.

Also shock me that there's not one but two official conservative denominational offshoots. Once the tent is shrunk, there's usually a fight about just how small it should be. Liturgy (including inclusive language), worship styles, hymnody and other things come into play. Also, within more conservative Methodists, there may be frisson, or fission, between modern conservative evangelical types and traditional conservative Methodists.

And, follow the money:

Mr. Bickerton, the bishop, said that many of the congregations that left the United Methodists seemed to be motivated as much by a desire for financial independence as by deep theological differences. “We’ve learned this is not as much about human sexuality as we thought,” he said. “This is about power, control and money.” ... Because of its extraordinary growth, White’s Chapel paid the denomination about $600,000 annually, and had lost confidence that its money was being well spent by a remote administrative bureaucracy, said Rev. Larry Duggins, a longtime member who the church hired to help manage the separation process.

And, follow a church polity matter.

In Southlake, congregants were increasingly wary of the direction of the national denomination’s theology. But they were also unhappy with the Methodist policy of moving pastors to new locations every three years.

Methodists aren't alone here. Catholics reassign priests about every 4-5 years. And, within Methodism in the US, it's been a policy for decades if not longer. The idea, in both churches, as I understand it, is precisely to keep an individual minister from building up a church-politics power base. Especially within Protestant churches that might be a bit less hierarchical than Catholicism, the idea of megachurch pastors within their midst is problematic. They look at the Southern Baptist Convention and say they don't want that. (Surprised my former-life conservative wing of Lutheranism doesn't have more problems with this.)

Also, I think that like Catholics and Episcopalians (whose own fissures, per the 1928 Book of Common Prayer Anglican-type US Episcopalian fracture), there's church property ownership issues with the Methodist split. That too is a matter of follow the money.

Thursday, December 28, 2023

More r/AcademicBiblical roundup

 NO, Yonathan Adler does NOT "over-egg it" on his magisterial new study of the origin of Jewish beliefs and praxis. (Said person is a good commenter on Aussie politics, though.)

Fortunately, several people set straight this poster's presumption that Pauline influences aren't in the gospels.

Thursday, December 21, 2023

Brief observations on Paul Davidson of "Is That In the Bible?"

I love me some Paul Davidson, author of "Is That in the Bible?" (Also u/CaptainHaddock at r/AcademicBiblical. And, sigh, a mod there now, too.) But, Jonathan Poletti, the "Belover" of Medium, the pusher of the Shroud of Turin and other stuff there, on your blogroll? The Poletti who makes up liberal evangelical Protestant dudebro claims about what Jesus believed? Really?

Also, in this piece? I'm more leery of Tom Dykstra than that, though nothing about Mark's Chapter 4 parables impinges on Jesus mythicism, I'll note. OTOH, per my link, one of Dykstra's pieces I criticized was him talking about sources in Mark. (And link rot says it's gone.)

And, linking to the Westar Institute's blog, and also to a decade-old book from its Acts Seminar? Interesting.

Also interesting? Several of the people on his blogroll haven't posted anything in years. One won't load and ergo is presumably defunct. (That said, I got the new Ehrman review from a site that is still posting fresh stuff.) Another blocked me for whatever reason, not human blocking, but internet-mechanical blocking; it said I was blocked. James McGrath? On the conservative side of critical scholarship indeed; I've tangled with him about the origins of the Eucharist and other things.

I don't think Davidson is a mythicist himself. I can't even say that he's a secularist. He is studious when he writes, and in much depth. I don't know that he's explained why.

Thursday, December 14, 2023

Intercessory prayer DOES NOT WORK

 This is not against the U.S. Religious Right, mainly Christian, but with a few Orthodox Jews along for the ride, and even, for political reasons, a few Muslims.

This is against the Religious Center and Left, as well as Right, of all religious traditions that believe in praying to a god(dess) to get him/her to change their minds.

Via Tales of Whoa, who says (rightfully) that even within the world of religiosity, with the Western dual-omni god, at least, this is one that doesn't make ANY sense, we have this in-depth research test.

It checks all the scientific boxes:

Remote

Random

Double-blinded.

People were asked to pray for COVID patients' recoveries. And it made no difference.

Zip. Zilch. Nada.

Summary details:

The objective of this study was to evaluate the effect of intercessory prayer performed by a group of spiritual leaders on the health outcomes of hospitalized patients with Novel Coronavirus (COVID-19) infection, specifically focusing on mortality and hospitalization rates. Design: This was a double-blinded, controlled, and randomized trial conducted at a private hospital in São Paulo, Brazil. Interventions: Both groups continued to receive their usual medical care in accordance with HCor Hospital's institutional patient care protocol for COVID-19 patients. Intervention: Both groups received their regular medical care according to HCor's institutional patient care protocol for COVID-19 patients. The intervention group, in addition to standard treatment, received intercessory prayers performed by a group of spiritual leaders. Main outcome measures: The primary endpoint was in-hospital mortality. Secondary endpoints included the need for mechanical ventilation during hospitalization, duration of mechanical ventilation, length of ICU stay, and length of hospital stay. Results: A total of 199 participants were randomly assigned to the groups. The primary outcome, in-hospital mortality, occurred in 8 out of 100 (8.0 %) patients in the intercessory prayer group and 8 out of 99 (8.1 %) patients in the control group (HR 0.86 [0.32 to 2.31]; p = 0.76). Additionally, there were no significant differences between the groups in terms of secondary outcomes. Conclusion: The study found no evidence of an effect of intercessory prayer on the primary outcome of mortality or on the secondary outcomes of hospitalization time, ICU time, and mechanical ventilation time.

A total of 199 patients is relatively robust, too, at least partially undercutting "small sample size" claims.

As for the theology, philosophy of religion and related?

This issue hits home hardest with the classical Western monotheisms, post-early Jewish contact with Greek philosophy. In other words, the "dual-omni" god, as I call him, both omnipotent and omnibenevolent.

But, this critter doesn't even have to be omnibenevolent. Only the first omni is really in play, as long as omniscience is understood as a subset of omnipotence.

So, you have a deity who already knows what is going to happen because, and in addition to he (she, it) having already created things to happen and play out that way. And yet, you're praying for him to change his mind.

After all, the Torah records Moses himself as saying, in Numbers 23:19:

God is not human, that he should lie, not a human being, that he should change his mind.

There you go.

BUT?!

After the Great Flood, when Yahweh smells Noah's burnt offering, although Genesis 8:21 doesn't use the actual word, he is said to have "repented" of what he did. Of course, before that, in Genesis 6:6, he "repented" of having created human beings in the first place, and there, the Hebrew word is used.

Beyond that, in Genesis 8, Yahweh is just as much quasi-human as Zeus, as he "repents" precisely because he SMELLS Noah's burnt offering.

Fact is, of course, as this illustrates, there is no theology of the Bible, or of the Tanakh or New Testament. Nor even of individual books that have gone through multiple writing and editorial hands.

Of course, there is, in Isaiah, the passage, II Kings 20, when Hezekiah is told that his illness will kill him and he prays and gets 15 more years of life.

I guess believers in an omnipotent god could say this was his own plan all along and he just didn't make that clear. In other words, per Job as filtered through Paul in Romans, this is god's inscrutability and y'all on earth just need to shut up.

Well, as I have called it, that's the psychological division of the problem of evil, so you just opened a bigger can of worms. And, per what started us off? The more liberally religious, at least in Christianity, as well as the wingnuts, ultimately go there.

Or, also among the semi-liberal theologically, but something also used by religious fundamentalists there's C.S. Lewis, whose essay "Does Prayer Work" Tales of Whoa cites. Lewis says, in essence, that in a scientific test mode, this isn't real prayer. Gee, don't we have psi phenomena people claim exactly the same when telekinesis, etc., are subjected to scientific testing?

But, Lewis and the wingnuts are wrong anyway, as the study allowed for exactly that:

The intercessors consisted of Protestant religious leaders who were selected based on their faith, availability, and commitment to daily prayers for a specific period. They were volunteers from Protestant congregations across various cities and denominations. The theological knowledge of each intercessor could not be objectively evaluated, but their voluntary participation and shared belief in the efficacy of prayer for the sick were significant factors in their selection.

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